Saturday, April 01, 2006

Man's Best Friend?

Gentlemen (or Brutes as the case may be), let us speak to each other frankly. Yes, even you shy ones in the back, I address you especially.

Who is with you in your darkest hour? Who consoles you when the competition of world conquest proves too frustrating? When your work loses its lustre, when the once-vibrant colors of your imagination bleach and run down the pages of your memory?

Friend, the name of thy solace is.. Pornography!

How long can we meditate at its altar, our minds free of concerns, empty of thought, with all the beauty of the medium teasing our flagging identity to attention.

I submit to you - pornography is a form of worship as joyful and rewarding as any religious pursuit, its icons equal to any edifying text.

But Women, I turn to you now, why should you be left out of the dance? Many females revolt at what male porn has to offer, but is there an aesthetic of porn that would satisfy both sexes?

I went looking for one the other day, and found these three compelling images, geared for women, that I also thought were sexy. So lets celebrate this democracy thing and vote! If you're not sure which you like best, click on the images to enlarge for a closer view.

"Massage""The Diver""Nip"

What is it about the images themselves that inspire? I've heard that females tend to prefer images that suggest an erotic narrative. So with apologies to the Bard, I ask: tell me where is Fancy bred, in the eye or in the head?

15 Thoughts:

Blogger Zeppellina said...

Hi Pawlr!

Well, you already know that as a woman, I don`t have any problems with pornography.
Can`t help thinking though, that a lot of women require a little more complex or sophisticated imagery than most men do, to get their juices going.

Forgive me, but I can`t say I was inspired by any of the 3 images on the post....they look like bad adaptions of fairly standard travel brochure / leisure centre pictures, and were pretty bland. :-)

Different people have very different levels of imagery which excite them, and I know a lot of women who have pretty sophisticated tastes in sexual imagery, which men also enjoy too.

So, tell me, do you find these 3 images sexually charged?
Hmm......I don`t think so...I`m guessing, of course, but I think you played safe there just to start the ball rolling............


Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:09:00 PM  
Anonymous GM said...

Okay, I'll weigh in...None of these images do anything for me. Sorry.

As a rule my taste in pornography runs in two different lines.

1.) Yes, I want the narrative, but a simple picture isn't about to do it for me. I need at least 300 pages of housewife porn with the initial lust, the courtship, the seduction, the passion and finally the undying love. I know, it's sad, but there it is.

2.) When we are talking porn for the sake of instant sexual gratification, I want graphic images of penetration and the suggestion of illicit liasons. In that respect I don't think I'm that different from the average male.

Regarding the images shown. Mr. Massage boy just seems silly. I wonder why the young man on the diving board has lost his swimsuit. And the nipple biting thing? Ouch...Not for me.

As a side note, I don't consider myself to be a sexual prude, I'm always up for a new adventure. I love being female and I love my personal sexuality. However, the one and only time I ever went to a male strip club I was surprised by my reaction. I was totally comfortable watching the strippers while they were up on stage, but as soon as they came down into the audience I was VERY uncomfortable. I don't know if my mind interpreted it as somehow being unfaithful (although my husband knew I was at the strip bar) or if I just have a streak of prude that I was previously unaware of. Weird.

Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:19:00 PM  
Blogger pawlr said...

Hey Zep, thanks for coming by!

Yes I picked something a little tame to start off.. although I did like the if you have some examples with more oomph, I'd love it if you felt like linking over to some in the comments.

The central image was attractive to me simply because of the context. As I look at the man, I imagine a woman looking at him and then as I imagine her desire rising, my own desire rises because of her reaction. Very interesting.

Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:21:00 PM  
Blogger iBegToDither said...

What really turns me on is that our masseuse has aligned his wristwatch tan mark with the lass's bikini line. It's a fine piece of technique and probably works on all of us subliminally.

I also like that the diver looks just like me and his weenie is apparently heliotropic. Just peaking out of the shadows, looking for some sun.

Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:53:00 PM  
Blogger Zeppellina said...

Hi again, Pawlr!

As you`ve probably guessed, I spend a lot of time looking at porn.

I often have to download images onto CD, because I can`t pass by a good image without collecting it, and I end up with thousands of images, and my PC begins to grind to a halt!

Yes, I suppose that makes me sad, but I do love a good image!

Not sure how to do an image link thing, but there are lots of good sites on my links section and my site Bodybits has lots of good image site links.

There are so many different types of porn to appeal to so many tastes, and the internet is wonderful for that!
The trick is to always investigate the links sections on porn sites, and then their links etc, and you very quickly find what gets you going.
My own tastes are for really avante garde images, by good photographers, but, in saying that, I just love looking at most porn images.
I agree with gm, in that a lot of porn which women look at is not so different from that looked at by men.

But everyones tastes are so very different, and that`s what is so interesting!

It`s a good post, and it will be good to hear everyones thoughts, especially women.

Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:55:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

That's a convoluted explanation re: the sexiness of the diving board photo, Paul. Very interesting!

I don't even like photos re: porn. Give me a nice moving image.

That said, my taste for porn has declined as I've gotten older. A relative statement.

Saturday, April 01, 2006 9:25:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Let me just give some props to zeppellina, who is a very talented artists. Call her stuff "erotica" or "pornography" or whatever -- the labels matter less (to me) than the talent.

Check out her site! ("Zeppellina" is the main one -- and the one with the artwork.) You can click on her name and then on that blog after scrolling down her profile (just in case anyone doesn't know how to do this on Blogger -- no offense intended!). Or, just click here.

She's an artist -- that label, I think, is accurate.

On pool-guy, what strikes me is how similar to Greco-Roman statuary it is, if you ignore the modern surroundings. Anyone who's seen "The Dying Gaul" or any number of other statues know that the beauty of the body, male or female, is something different from sexual drives. They can overlap, for sure, but it's always nice to look at beauty.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, in other words. :)

Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:13:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

For comparison's sake to Pool Guy:

"The Dying Gaul".

I've seen "The Dying Gaul" in person, and will again in July (woo-hoo!). No picture can do it justice, but here's another angle.

Clearly, to me at least, what separates the two images, aside from medium and the ages, is immediate context and reasonably inferred intent.

"The Dying Gaul" is a moving testimony to the dignity of a fallen enemy. Yes, this reflects back on the even greater dignity (and power) of the conquerer, but the respect for the vanquished seems clear (again, to me), given the usual Walter Benjamin quote that all acts of culture are at the same time acts of barbarism.

Pool Guy, on the other hand, aside from showing a beautifully proportional body in artful contortion, and perhaps reflecting some pure joy in sun-worship, is closer to what Zep said about travel brochures. I don't see much moving, human context there, aside from body-beauty.

Which is OK, of course -- not everything has to be a great work of art! Interesting to note differences, though.

Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:30:00 PM  
Anonymous kyahgirl said...

Well, this is an interesting post Pawlr.

First, the question ; is fancy in the eye or the head?

Its not black and white of course but I'd say, I can fancy something that is a thing of beauty (like your diver) but not have any stirrings of lust. Somewhat along the lines of what Doug was saying about the artwork. On the other hand, the eye is definitely an important factor in the whole process of arousal-thus the thought that making out with a bit of light is more satisfying than in the dark.

However, I'd say the head is by for the more important ingredient in what creates lust. Thus, a person can get very turned on by erotic literature or a hot dream.

I don't talk alot about porn with other women so can't speak in generalities. I agree with both the point zep made about women requiring a bot more complex or sophisticated imagery to get the juices going but also with GM's point number 2. I'm guessing that males and females probably have a strong viceral response to the right images.

As for the pictures, here is how they impacted me:
1) she looks proud of herself and bit embarrassed for having her ass massaged by a guy in a towel. He likes a professional who is considering the errands he has to run on the way home from work. There is 0 sexual energy there. Maybe if he was looking at the camera or if he was keeling between her legs and the towel was gone-you'd have a different scenario.

The diver is lovely to look at but lifeless. Also, this is a pet peeve of mine, why do the bulk of sexual images you see in magazines and on the net have to be young and beautiful? People over 30, 40, 50 have strong sexual instincts as much as younger people yet they are invisible in the imagery. Personally, if I'd children in my 20, that guy could have been my son. I have some natural defense mechanism that prevents any interest in one so young. That sounds really prudish but I can't help it. By the same token, I see the guys at working looking daily at the 'sunshine girl' in the newspaper, usually some bikini clad teenager and wonder how they can not have thoughts of their own daughters, granddaughters when looking. It just seems weird. Maybe I'm too much of a mom.

The picture of the nip could be erotic if the guy didn't look like he was taking a bit of a piece of beef jerky. :-) (Gawd, I'm fussy).

let't talk about what makes erotica what it is and what makes porn 'porn'. I don't claim to understand it. I remember years ago, investing the subject a bit. I rented The Story of 'O', which was just on the shelf in the adult section, and couple of XXX rated flicks that were behind the counter. I was simply astonished to see that the XXX rated flicks were just sex, sex, sex, and the reason they were rated that way was because they showed genitalia and penetration. It got a bit boring after awhile. A person might as well go watch some rabbits. Now that is entertaining. Anyway, the Story of 'O' was just rated R, and it showed no genitalia but to me it was far more pornographic. There was bondage, pimping, rape, sexual enslavement.
I have watched very little porn or even explored it much but I wonder if this strange discrepancy is normal. What does it say about our society if normal nakedness and sexual activity is rated as practically illegal and all sort of other icky stuff is merely restricted.

Well, I've really blithered on here, maybe I should change my name to Ibegtoblither? ha, ha, ha.

Looking forward to hearing more thoughts from everyone. I covered a lot of topics.

Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:11:00 PM  
Anonymous kyahgirl said...

also, apologies for the several typos in my comment. I should learn to proof-read but my kids are harrassing me to go make them hot chocolate! I'll have to come back later :-)

Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:14:00 PM  
Blogger N said...

I don't like any of them! I don't find any of the three at all suggestive, either.

Number 1 looks like it comes from a brochure, number 2 from a Diet Coke ad, and number 3 looks more annoying than sensual. Plus, the bloke doesn't look like he's enjoying himself.

I think... I like arty type pics of women more than men. My fantasies generally involve ME being an alluring sex goddess, in many cases dominated by an intense (not baby-oiled and moisturised) man. So if I see a sexy photograph, I can kind of place myself in the model's life... I don't know; do you know what I mean???

At the moment my fantasies involve just one man, too. Which probably isn't right. I'm much too tame. ;)

Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i like the one where i can see nip.

dude is a dude, and a bit hairy--last place.

massage is second place-tame, but massage is fun, and she naked under that towel.

Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:41:00 PM  
Blogger supercat said...

These are, simply, the sexiest, nastiest, most bizzare photos I've ever seen.

Or am I the only one who truly sees what's going on here?

These three men are all staying in the same hotel. With Mira Sorvino.

In the spa/gym: Rocco Sifredi, legless after a tragic anal-lingus accident, pleasures Mira. Meanwhile, down at the...

Pool: local news weather guy, aroused by Mira's ecstatic giggles, diddles the clitoris implanted into his left knee. But over at the...

Cabana: an enraged and jealous Fabio bites into his OWN nipple on his single, surgically implanted E cup breast.


Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:37:00 PM  
Blogger pawlr said...

Wow thanks for all the feedback everyone - although it seems these images are leaving you guys pretty limp.

Supercat - thanks, you really connected the dots for me with your interpretive narration of the triptych.

Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:49:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

One last thing: re eye vs. head.

I'm taking it as a metaphor, as the eye is useless without a brain attached. Having said that, even the metaphor doesn't really work, as it presupposes some kind of unmediated visual stimulus. All visual stimuli are contextualized at some level, and in sexuality, specifically, once again the inherited and amazing flexibility of the evolved human brain obtains.

The only (or at least overwhelmingly important) evolutionary imperative is to reproduce, differential rates of reproduction and survival being what natural selection is, after all (assuming natural selection = "evolution" for argument's sake, and I don't think that's true).

Yet look at all the non-reproductive fun people can have with that "basic" drive, no matter what one thinks of these photos, of pornography/erotica, etc.?

Monday, April 03, 2006 5:09:00 PM  

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