Friday, November 04, 2005

One Year Later: Was the 2004 Election Stolen?

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Free Press Articles on this topic, referred to in the debate.

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Blogger GodlessMom said...

I just don't understand why more people aren't concerned about this. It doesn't matter whether one believes the election was stolen or not. The fact remains that there are serious flaws in the system and it seems that they are being completely ignored.

I had a horrible experience voting in the last presidential election (the machine kept switching my vote from Kerry to Bush) and I'm not even in a swing state. I have very little faith in our current system.

Okay, end rant.

Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:14:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Rants are welcome!

I think the only answer is that the GOP right now likes the way the "system" keeps them in power. I think the Dems right now are afraid to come out and look like "sore losers" -- or, even more upsetting to contemplate, simply want to get their hands on the voting machines themselves.

I rather doubt this last notion, because the actual manner in which the party would "get its hands on" the machines, easy as that is to say, amounts to "turning" Republican-friendly companies. An exercise of doubtful reward and dubious wisdom, both tactically, strategically, and ethically.

Many people on the right (and also on the left) find rational-choice voting to be "naive" -- thus, the idea is to, as Chomsky put it so well (quoting Walter Lippman), "manufacture consent." One way is through mass propaganda (ergo, why we have no publicly funded elections, meaningful debates, or any limitation on donations); another is through the direct manipulation of vote tabulation (hence, no real investigation into 2004).

Unless and until the parties, or any party, turns away from corporate money, nothing will change. The impetus for that change has to come from below, regardless of political philosophy. Those who are willing to cheat -- to sacrifice the higher principles of representative democracy -- for short-term gain are not democrats. There's another term for what they are.

Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:50:00 PM  
Blogger Demotiki said...


Rant ahead, if you can't rant about the travesty of our electoral system, what can we rant about? There's plenty of grassroots activity, but I would like to see some high profile Dems. talk seriously about the thefts of 2000 and 2004. Some have, but I would like to see every federal elected official stand up and say "enough!"

Monday, November 07, 2005 1:23:00 PM  

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