Saturday, October 22, 2005

Move over, Olsens..

Too twisted for comment.. but you can learn more about them here and even visit their official site! Cool!

7 Thoughts:

Blogger Demotiki said...

Wow, that was quite an interesting bit. What I am waiting for is racist porn, you know like white on white hot teen sex. There's nothing in the Nazi (or Republican)ethic that prohibits porn. In fact, as Gannon shows is, it doesn't even have to be straight sex. All that is required is a notion of racial purity and an enthusiasm for men in uniform.

Saturday, October 22, 2005 6:01:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Holy shit. This is just more of the same. Chalk it up as part of our proud American history -- we do no wrong, remember? -- and there's no racism anymore. Nope, not a bit.

Sunday, October 23, 2005 2:21:00 PM  
Blogger Demotiki said...

Doug,

These girls are part of a movement that is not "racism" - a negative term defining a hatred of those of different races. These folks call their philosophy "racialism," a positive philosophy of "racial pride." What I loved was when one of these demon twins referred to the "good eugenics" of other attractive young racists. It's usually cute when precocious children use terms incorrectly, not in this case, it just reveals a deep racist vein in our country’s closet.

However, there was a point made in one of these bits that makes sense. How can the same record companies that promote gangster rapper music that qualifies as hate-speech against many groups of Americans (particularly women) complain about Prussian Pride? After all, PP is at least partially about building themselves up rather than abusing others. Their message is evil, but more so than many fringe rap acts? I don’t think so. Neither should be acceptable to reasonable people, yet violently racist and misogynistic rap is wildly popular and is chanted by young urban youths (white and black) our nation’s school. In fact, it’s a sign of coolness to dig the darkest possible gangster rap. I could easily see this music going mainstream. How long will it be until PP is sung by armies of white school-girls who look like they were cloned out of a Norman Rockwell?

Oh, and why do you hate white America Doug?

Demo

Sunday, October 23, 2005 3:02:00 PM  
Blogger pawlr said...

Demo, the difference is that the tolerance for misogyny and violence on the black side is greater simply because, as Flavor Flav teaches us: "my people been persecuted". But of course, much as we'd like to see these white chicks sold into slavery and shipped off to foreign lands (don't deny it, you freak) - since we live in a culture that privileges such persecution, and indignant self-righteousness - you have to come to realize that Whitey is the most threatned minority - after all, they have all the stuff that the brown people want. So I say, let these sensitive young artistes bring their joy to the white world!

Monday, October 24, 2005 1:05:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Yeah, D and I laughed (bitterly) over the "good eugenics" line, too.

And I think I can't improve on pawlr's response. Context (historical and otherwise) matters.

That's why if I yell "fire" in a crowded theater, I'm committing a crime (I think; at least it's unethical if there's no fire); if I yell "fire" at a rock concert when the band leader asks which Jimi Hendrix tune we'd like to hear covered, it's OK.

So, when a black person uses "nigger" it's different from when a white supremacist uses "nigger." Or when you and I make some joke about the Holocaust, we know that we're being blackly comic or ironic or darkly satirical of Holocaust-deniers or whatnot. The use of terms must be judged against the full context of the statement and the beliefs of the user. That's how you avoid political correctness AND racism you dumb-ass sheep-fucking Greek.

I know some of our seemingly increasingly infrequent rightwing guests will label this "unfair" and indicative of rampant "relativism" but it's simply objectively true.

Monday, October 24, 2005 1:14:00 PM  
Blogger Demotiki said...

Doug,

I noticed that the wingnuts are scarce these days. I guess they probably are in deep denial since their entire world-view is crashing around their ears.

As for Gangsta' Rap, I mentioned this not to show that being a total jerk in your music is accepted in mainstream "black" culture, but to show that it is at least theoretically possible for a similar cultural movement with far more disturbing consequences to evolve out of the "racialist" movement. In fact, the worse gansta'rap gets, the easier it will be for these folks to claim their music is legitimate free speach (which it clearly is legally.)

Our society should be far less permissive of both types of music, but we are so rarely asked to act morally as individuals, so we are getting out of practice. Somehow the existential morality many of us on this board possess is non-existant among the "sheeple" of AMerica, particularly those on the right.

Monday, October 24, 2005 2:54:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Hmmmm...I'm more for shining a light on all speech. It's akin to a psychological issue -- if you bury it, it will take more pernicious forms.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant; if your culture accepts these Nazi Twins instead of fighting what they represent, your culture will get what it deserves. It's a tough question, for sure, but I come down on the democratic, libertarian side.

Monday, October 24, 2005 4:49:00 PM  

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