Sunday, August 14, 2005

"Someone tell the President the War is Over," Frank Rich


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Blogger Demotiki said...

Yeah, I thought that was rich, especially coming from Ritch. I thought he was a neoconservative Zionist . . . could it be that people are coming to realize that this war is bad for EVERYONE. In the past many of the neocons have stated very publically that the war in Iraq was conducted at least in part to help protect Israel. An increasing number of scenerios now may unfold that make Israel less secure. That shouldn't come as a surprise to Americans or British, who are demonstratively less safe now than before the war in Iraq began.

Think of these possibilties -Iran gets the bomb and passes it around. Could the US do anything? Of course not, we don't have the troops or the will, having wasted it on a war of choice. What if Iraq became a hornet's next and a modern Mecca for terror training - wait . . .did that happen already. .

You get the point, even those previously invested in this war for narrow reasons are abandoning ship. This war will destroy the Republican Party just as soundly as LBJ's war killed the Democratic Party.

Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:43:00 AM  
Blogger BarbaraFromCalifornia said...

You could talk until you are blue, red, green and orange and he still would not hear what you have to say.

He is a my way or the highway type of guy.

Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger pawlr said...

The war isn't by itself going to destroy the Republicans though... what also needs to be discredited are their economic policies. The Democrats need to connect the dots on this but they will never succeed as long as the DLC wing of the party stays in the pockets of corporate interests.

Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:02:00 PM  
Blogger Demotiki said...

Paul raises an interesting question, can the Democrats plausibly create a governing mandate without accepting corporate support? I don't think so. My reasoning is shared by a number of prominant Democrats including Biden, Reid and Pallosi. These folks have companies lined up behind them and don't fear losing on money. They cut deals, they are somewhat corrupt, but not terribly corrupt. They make do with what they have or can take. Don't get me wrong, they are not even in the same league with a Republican like Delay.

The Republican Party will back any bill sponsered by a corporation or and industry group. All they do is settle on how much they think the company can pay and then wait for the bribes to flood in. In such an environment, the Democrats need to low capital innovative firms with access to the capital markets. The Dem.s should partner with these firms and any old and true friendly corporations to take back power. Once we have power, we can rewrite the rules of corporate government interaction. This is a legal issue, we had better leave it to the courts. Let's make sure that we pick those courts.

Sunday, August 14, 2005 3:52:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

I think Dean proved that you can raise a ton of money from individual donors. Numbers compound small donations. I'm am all for grassroots movement because corporations just do what's good for them, and they ain't usually run by idiots.

Thus, any Dem admin that takes the money but doesn't play will get crushed in the media and in a thousand other ways.

The deep key is not to "get power," in my opinion, but to recapture people power and make government truly elective, responsive, and representative.

Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:24:00 PM  

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