Monday, May 23, 2005

Pat Tillman's Family Upset at Army "Lies"

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Blogger A.T. said...

I too was interested in this story and posted on it. But I found that I couldn't find the "news" in the story. White's May 4 story with the details of the destruction of Tillman's clothing, yes, but this story - 19 days later - seems odd to me. I don't understand how it is "news" that Tillman's parents are angry at the Army. Who isn't? Who ought to be more than them? Then again, maybe I'm a bit too critical of the news, when it panders to people's curiosities instead of matters of gravity. This is a sad, rotten story; I just don't think it belongs anywhere near the Post's front page.

Unless ... unless ... there is an insinuation that the killing was not innocent fratricide but instead a homicide. White never actually allows for that question to be stated, and probably for good reason. It is essentially inconceivable except for those looking for a morbid conspiracy to capture their imagination.

Monday, May 23, 2005 5:43:00 PM  
Blogger pawlr said...

What makes this an important story is that Tillman himself was a top NFL player, and the closest thing to a celebrity killed in action among the soldiers serving in Iraq. Furthermore, Tillman's family is refusing to follow the "stiff upper lip" stereotype of how dead soldiers' families are expected to behave, and actually questioning the military's handling of the situation.

Monday, May 23, 2005 7:35:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

I don't think it was a homicide, and I don't think that's the point. Pawlr is getting to it -- stating it, actually: Tillman's family is furious that they were lied to, and that their dead son was used for propaganda purposes. To be expected in wartime with these kind of leaders. Another good e.g.: Jessica Lynch. Car crash; that's it. Not a war hero. Lovely woman, and with the guts to come out and undermine the story (as I remember it). This is Lynch Part II. Btw, U2 was incredible. :)

Monday, May 23, 2005 8:01:00 PM  
Blogger A.T. said...

Well, right, I agree with all of that. While arguably newsworthy, Tillman's parents statements just doesn't seem so important as to garner the top-billing that they have among the myriad news outlets. Just my viewpoint.

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:16:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Hey, Allen:

One thing I will say is that the only reason we're hearing about this is because Tillman was famous (the "new pornography" of celebrity in our culture).

However, that's also the only reason the Pentagon used Tillman's story (and lied about it) in the first place. They have PR folks, too. Ditto Lynch.

So, yeah, I agree with the fact that Tillman is no more valuable than anyone else, but I think the Pentagon MADE this into a story by lying. Just as rightwingers said that the problem with Clinton was not a blow-job, but that he lied under oath (set up though he was), so, too, here.

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:37:00 AM  
Blogger A.T. said...

Right, I don't necessarily disagree with that either. The Pentagon needs to be fact-oriented, and spin facts (rather than make up stories) for PR purposes.

[BTW, since you digressed to U2, a question: how much old stuff vs new stuff? Early playlists for the tour were weighted very well toward emphasizing JoshTree and earlier, but Peter King noted in MMQB yesterday that they played 10 or 11 songs from Atomic Bomb ... and, as I recall, AB only HAS 11 songs. I'm hoping that the playlist is not so heavy on AB, even though that's their best album since JoshTree IMO.]

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:56:00 AM  
Blogger A.T. said...

[meaning, by October when we see them, they better be playing the old stuff!]

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

On U2: here was the set list (From their site; breaks are encores):

City of Blinding Lights
Vertigo
Elevation
Cry / Electric Co.
An Cat Dubh / Into the Heart
Beautiful Day
Miracle Drug
Sometimes You Can’t Make It On Your Own
Love and Peace or Else
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Bullet The Blue Sky
Running to Standstill
Pride in the Name of Love
Where the Streets have no Name
One

Zoo Station
The Fly / Jean Genie
Mysterious Ways
Original of the Species

All Because of You
Yahweh
Vertigo (yes, again: was GREAT)

A bunch of songs from the new album, but I think that album's their best since Achtung Baby; you should check it out before October.

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

I read too fast; just saw that you dig AB, too. Might agree it's better than Achtung Baby...it's really awesome.

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:42:00 AM  

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